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Gakked from tammykay715, as recced on _in_babylon.

Man, you have to read this. The Queer Peter Pan Syndrome. Definitely a Brian slice-n-dice. Of course, Cowlip is to blame, as they wrote him as they wanted.

Anyone want to discuss it?
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luciblue From: luciblue Date: June 24th, 2005 02:56 pm (UTC) (Link)
He's totally right. I'm assuming you're spoiled about S5, are you? because if not then I probably shouldn't continue. But he has no idea about what happens. I'm definitely tired of Brian like this, too. But I feel like they have a reason for writing him this way. There's still 7 episodes left!
qafhappy From: qafhappy Date: June 24th, 2005 03:04 pm (UTC) (Link)
Oh, I'm definitely spoiled. As rotten as it gets.

I'd like to hear his take on the end of the season...
frooshoo From: frooshoo Date: June 24th, 2005 03:22 pm (UTC) (Link)
And there is a "peter pan" reference in one of the later episodes too.
crazyharper From: crazyharper Date: June 24th, 2005 03:40 pm (UTC) (Link)
I agree with everything that guy wrote.
phluphee From: phluphee Date: June 24th, 2005 04:15 pm (UTC) (Link)

My 20 cents...

Very Cool Article...

Brian’s Queer Peter Pan Syndrome is even more limiting because it’s coupled with a relentless compulsion to put down the characters who have opted for balanced, full lives. And that’s everyone else on the series.

I think this is why I got so upset when Brian verbally bashed Emmett at his signing. Yes, there was a point he was trying to get across, but on the whole, it shows that Brian hasn't learned tact or maturity. He didn't need to say what he said at that moment. I think partly he feels out of control because all of his friends *have* moved forward, becomeing more well around people, while he has only limited growth since the first season. And even though Emmett may not be as wealthy or successful as Brian, he does have a very aware sense of who is and what he wants out his life. While Brian is still blindly trying to hold on to old ideals even though they no longer work for him any longer.

Not to say that he should "settle" down with Justin. They're relationship can be whatever they want it to be. It doesn't have to be as homogenous as Michael and Ben's relationship. But it does require Brian to take some responsibility for the relationship and meet Justin halfway.
vicpeak From: vicpeak Date: June 24th, 2005 05:28 pm (UTC) (Link)
The article should be applauded at, I agree with it 100%, thanks for the heads up!!
gporn From: gporn Date: June 24th, 2005 05:58 pm (UTC) (Link)
If your brains are in your crotch at 16, then your personal development is probably healthy and normal. Fifteen years later, if your raison d’être is still headquartered between your legs, then, chances are you’re in the Express Lane to Patheticville.


ITA with everything stated in that article. Brian has become somewhat of a joke with his inability to grow as one should. And what he said about Justin, except for the whole staying with Ethan thing *shudders*, is basically right. Though I love my BJ pairing, I wouldn't mind seeing Justin in a happy relationship that doesn't take forever for the person to realize and vocalize how they feel.
hah424 From: hah424 Date: June 25th, 2005 12:05 am (UTC) (Link)
I'm staying spoil-free, so I am vlsoing my eyes as I reply.

Got this from Danny's season 5 recap, episode 1. I think she has a valid point. See if you think so, too.

"Everyone seems to see his life inside Babylon as him not growing up. That his partying ways and non-monogamy stance is him still being a boy… the eternal Peter Pan who refuses to grow up. That’s wrong. That’s saying his choice of lifestyle is wrong. By who’s definition? That’s exactly what he’s saying here… judge yourself.

For me, and I’ve said this all along, what will show Brian’s growth is not him giving up his lifestyle… It’s not allowing that lifestyle to define him. It’s him opening his heart to love. Opening his mind to all the possibilities of life. To take a walk across that bridge. To lose his demons. To stop protecting himself. To stop trying to live in an illusion and step outside that comfort zone. I really could care a less if he tricks and does drugs til the cows come home as long as he’s not doing them out of some obligation, that as a homosexual, he has to."


Just a thought. We'll see where Cowlip decides to take his character this season. Maybe they thinks it's Peter Pan too.

-Heather
forever_frozen From: forever_frozen Date: June 25th, 2005 02:37 am (UTC) (Link)
Thanks for posting that. I agree entirely.
forever_frozen From: forever_frozen Date: June 25th, 2005 02:36 am (UTC) (Link)
While I understand the author's critique of Brian, I take it with a grain of salt due to his other comments. Saying that Brian treats Justin "disgracefully," "cruelly," and in a way that is "emotionally abusive," along with saying that Ethan was a more suitable partner for Justin, makes me wonder if we're watching the same show. The author clearly dislikes Brian, and his bias makes writing an objective, respectable analysis impossible.

I also think the article is colored by what the author considers to be an "authentic, full" life. If nothing else, QAF has always presented alternatives to the whitebread lifestyles that are considered to be eventualities by the mainstream.

If your brains are in your crotch at 16, then your personal development is probably healthy and normal. Fifteen years later, if your raison d’être is still headquartered between your legs, then, chances are you’re in the Express Lane to Patheticville. Brian Kinney thinks he lives in Pittsburgh. In truth, his address has been Patheticville for some time now.

This is where I think the author really goes off-track. Brian's brain is not in his dick; it's in his fear of abandonment and rejection, and the low self-esteem that dictates his value to others lies in his physical appearance.

Then there’s Brian Kinney (Gale Harold). As Evelyn Waugh puts it in Brideshead Revisited, “Change is the only evidence we have of life.” If that’s true, then QAF kingpin Kinney is stone cold dead. Rather than on Queer as Folk, this guy belongs on Arrested Development. Apparently change is the only four-letter word in Mr. Kinney’s vocabulary.

Bull-fucking-shit. No one on QAF has changed more than Brian. He's fallen in love, asked Justin to move in, changed his tricking rules, partaken in a few selfless acts of generosity, accepted his role as a father, allowed his relationship with Michael to evolve to a healthier standard. The stuff relating to monogamy and family has been the only topic on which he's refused to budge.

Also, quoting Brideshead Revisited? So gay.
rainmakerslurve From: rainmakerslurve Date: June 26th, 2005 04:36 am (UTC) (Link)
I completely agree with the two arguments you made. I also agree that the author's bias gets in the way of writing objectively. Just because Brian's fears continue to lead him to tricking doesn't mean he hasn't changed!
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